Glen Burtnik (1996)


If there is one thing we all know about Glen Burtnik is that he is a great songwriter.
He has crafted some of the finest undiscovered pop/aor tunes that have ever been, and still today remains one of the biggest cult AOR stars.
This interview was taken a few months back, when I talked to Glen at home, inbetween making arrangements for the release of his latest CD Palookaville.
It has turned out to be a great year for Burtnik fans, (note: no longer a ‘c’ in Burtnik!) with the new studio album, and also from MTM in Sweden, an archives compilation of his unreleased tunes, some of which he discusses in the interview.
You can read reviews for Palookaville and Retrospectacle after you have read Glen's teachings!

So Glen , Where have you been hiding?
Well what happened to me, was I put out two records, and there was a change of A&R staff at A&M Records and I kinda got caught in one of those things, so you know, I had a short little moment there at A&M and then it was over.
But then I started getting into songwriting after a while, and that has been somewhat lucrative, you know, I actually did better as a songwriter than I did as an artist! It just so happens that I have just finished a record though!

That should impress your fans...
Perhaps! Hopefully!

So what of this new record?
Yeah, I just finished it and am just going to put it out myself.
You know, there was a difference in the 80’s, when I worked on my records, then I was more concerned with um, what the label had to say, or having a label. Now there is the difference in that I couldn’t care less about the label. What that has lead to though, is I have no label!!

But probably a better sounding record....
Well I hope so. I mean, I like it and I’m sure we’ll find something.

I have a five track demo of yours that I’d like your feedback on.
It features the songs ‘Wanted Man’ (One of the most classic AOR tunes you could hear!), ‘Tail Of A Comet”, ‘Another Mile To Go’, ‘Every Day Of My Life’ and ‘Nobody But You’. Where did those songs come from?

Well, those songs were demo’s for my third album, in the late 80’s,
when I finished Heroes And Zeros, um, I was writing songs for a third album, and like I was saying, there was a new guy as A&R director at A&M Records and he just didn’t understand my music and he, I guess he just didn’t like it, you know, but those were the songs I was working on.

They sound remarkably fresh to this day....
Thanks, those would have been among the songs I was hoping to release but never did.

Okay, so you are onto all new material now?
Yeah, I am completely onto new stuff, it’s a different bag, it’s very much me, and it’s the same kind of melodic approach and stuff like that, but now it’s me a few years later.

Still the trademark choruses?
I’d Like to think so!
Yeah, I’m very much a pop songwriter really. Aan you know, I can try really hard to be anything but, but ultimately it’s all from a very pop place.

Well there’s no argument there from me on that one....
What do you think of bands like Bon Jovi, that writes ten songs in five minutes, of very average quality, and have hits, but a great singer/songwriter can’t get a break?

Yeah, yeah, I don’t know. It’s hard to say. There is a lot to the music business. I think it has a lot to do with things that aren’t really music related. Whenever I meet really powerful people in record companies and stuff like that, I often feel like they are just business people and they are good at promoting themselves. And that is cool, but it’s not about music.

Not at all...
See, I don’t know, it’s not really about the music all the time, and it’s not really fair, but I’m not going to get hung up on it not being fair, cause I got over that.

You end up going nowhere then....
Yeah, I’m not bitter or anything, bitter doesn’t help you. I came to a point where I realised, and that’s why I made this record. I came to a point where I said, you know, just because you don’t have a label knocking at your door asking for a Glen Burtnik album, I shouldn’t wait for anyone to give me the license to put out a record. I should just make a record.

There are afew others like you, that are doing just that....
Yeah, sure.

You recently worked with John Waite, on the song Downtown,
from John’s solo album Temple Bar.

Yeah, John is one of my favourites....

Same here. I heard you guys did a solo acoustic tour together....
We played a number of shows, it’s been a few months now.

How did they go?
Great, Really great! You know, it was a real thrill for me to first meet him and then start writing together, and when he asked me out on the road, it was really great, cause I admire him and we get along great.
It was a lot of fun, It’s a little frightening to walk out on stage with just an acoustic guitar, but he’s so special, he’s an incredible singer it’s always great.

Tell me about the Slaves Of New Brunswick project and album....
That was an album that came out a while ago, that I wrote and recorded. It was a band we put together, but we ended up asking people tp make appearances on it. It was from my small hometown in New Jersey.

I don’t know that as many people have heard of that album...
It’s pretty crazy, pretty odd!!

What about Freddy Curci covering one of your tunes ‘Perfect World’? Do you know him personally, or was it one of those record company deals?
No, I never met the guy! He’s a good singer though. There are a lot of versions of that song. There is a Tonio K version, also there is a version by a band called What If. It has been in some movies as well, but it’s never been a hit though, but there is always somebody who is a believer in it. I’m just happy people like it.

And you had a track on the Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure Soundtrack....
That’s right.

How did you know the Tom Cochrane song, ‘Not So Far Away’?
Somebody got me to do that actually. They wanted the song for the movie, and wanted to know if I wanted to do it.

Did you like the way it was used?
I wasn’t that impressed with the movie, but it was fun to do the song.

Soon after that you were with Styx. What was that experiance like?
Well, it was okay, it actually came at a good time, because I had label problems, so when they called it was good timing for me, it helped. You know, it was a job that paid well and got me out of my legal problems.

When I bought the album, I was dissapointed you were only on four tracks as a singer....
It’s a very odd group, you know, it’s very.....um, the way Dennis De Young works, some songs sound like one group, and my songs, I just brought them in.

They sound like classic Glen Burtnick!
Yeah, well ‘Love Is The Ritual’ was actually written long before and the songs were going to be on my next solo album, but they said lets do them, and I said okay!.....funny!!

Looking back on ‘Talking In Code’ and ‘Heroes And Zeroes’...still great albums?
Yeah! I’m particularily proud of Heroes And Zeros, it was more of what I wanted to say, but I’m not ashamed of Talking In Code at all either!

They are hard to find on CD, they fetch a good price you know......
Hey! I’m valuable!

Have you got some favourite tunes?
Not that I can think of. There is one new one called ‘Spirit Of A Boy, Wisdom Of A Man’, that’s great, I usually like the newest thing I’ve written.

Who else have you written for?
Well you know about Patty Smyth. I had a big hit with her and Don Henley, ‘Sometimes Love Just Aint Enough’ (Glen also wrote three others for the album), and also Open Skyz, they did ‘Every Day Of My Life’ and ‘Open Skyz’, I co-wrote with them.

And plans for the future, Glen?
Well I’m kinda getting back into songwriting, I’m working with a guy called Charlton Teddis, who is a producer, he’s pretty cool. I’m just doing the songwriting thing.

Pay the rent, eh?
Yeah! You gotta do that!

You didn’t record the acoustic shows with John Waite then?
No, but you should ask him about that, maybe he did. I’m trying to pitch the idea of doing a live recording of some of his past music, because he’s got so many great songs. A double album or something, he’s so talented.

Surely you are selling yourself too short Glen! You should do the same!
Well thank you so much for saying so.

No worries there Glen! Thank you for talking to me today....
It was nice talking to you, take care, thanks.......



Night Ranger - Kelly Keagy (1996)


Okay, so we all know who Night Ranger are, if not, check out my Jack Blades interview. This however was a slight variation on the form of the band, with original members Kelly Keagy and Brad Gillis joined by ex-Jeff Paris bass man Gary Moon. They went onto record the very fine album 'Feeding Off The Mojo'. Here's the story.

So Kelly, how is the band and what are you up to currently?
The band is preparing to tour the south behind the newly released single ‘Precious Time’.

All the reviews I have read for 'Feeding Off The Mojo' have been excellent, are you happy with the reception for the album?
Radio is still focused on playing alternative music, so getting airplay has been frustrating.
However, we have been gratified by the reviews. It seems the consensus is it’s a great record and will be a shame if it doesn’t get the proper attention.

Many bands have comprimised their sound for the trends. 'Mojo' is a very contemporary sound, while still retaining everything a classic Night Ranger album should. How did you go about the song writing?
Writing the songs came naturally, we can’t do it any other way.
The songs were written out of personal experience or with a personal connection. As for the sound, we tried to keep the recording process simple. We didn’t want to over-process so we tried to keep the first takes in order to maintain the raw feel.

Kelly, your voice is obvious with the songs you sing on the album, but it sounds like there are two other singers with the diversity on this record. Who's responsible for the other leads?
Mojo, Last Chance, Try For Good Reason, Music Box and Longest Days were all sung by Gary Moon. I sang Precious Time, Night Has A Way, Do You Feel Like I Do/Tomorrow Never Knows.
Vocals were split between the two of us on Tell Me I’m Wrong and So Far Gone. Brad and David Pratter joined us for background vocals.

It is nice to hear some lyrics with hope and a positive message, like 'Try (For Good Reason)'. What was that song about?
Basically, the song reflects a particularly difficult time for us both as a band and individually.

In the absense of a better word, the album seems quite moody. Was that a feeling you tried to create, or again, was it just the way the band felt?
It came naturally. It is moody, we were moody. The moodiness probably comes through as a reflection of our own personal growth. Rather than just fast cars, girls, and how we can rock, we were motivated by a more spiritual side.

How long has this line-up been togehter?
We three have been playing together since 1992. We heard about Gary from Jeff Paris, a well known singer/songwriter from L.A.

I have read a lot of comments praising your recent live shows. All raved about the energy you guys created on stage. Is it just the three of you?
We are really enjoying playing with this line-up. The band is incredibly strong vocally, especially with the addition of David Zajicek for touring. David also does fine keyboards and amazing guitar work. In fact, he did some work on the record. All in all, it has been a great experience.

How did the band team up with David Pratter for the recording of 'Mojo'?
We met David Pratter through Don Grierson, the Executive Producer at the record company. Don Grierson had worked with David on Firehouse and we knew of his work with Dream Theatre.
Working with David Pratter was a learning experience for all participants.

And you assisted the production?
Yeah, I’ve been involved with engineering and producing for the past ten years, whether it has been with my own demos, other bands or previous Night Ranger records.

In previous years, there was talk of dissatisfaction regarding record label handling of Night Ranger. Was that frustrating?
All’s I can say is yes.

How much did that lead to the split of the band?

Wow! How is your current label working out?
It has been a great pleasure working with Don Grierson at Drive. We had a great respect for his accomplishments with so many artists, such as Heart and Cheap Trick. As our Executive Producer, he shared our vision and restored our faith in record company decision making.

There are a few guest writers involved with the writing of 'Mojo'. How did they get involved?
The guest writers were longtime friends who we felt added special flavours to our writing. We made an exception with ‘The Night Has A Way’. In that case, Don Grierson asked us to listen to the song because it had affected him so much and we couldn’t deny it did the same to us.

Any other plans for singles off the album?
As a matter of fact, ‘Precious Time’ was just released as a single to AC and CHR formats. We decided on ‘Mojo’ as the first single just to do something different. We have also released ‘Do You Feel’ to AOR.

Any favourite tunes?
Trying to pick favourites would be like choosing which child is your favourite. Each has their own special character. While it’s fun to play ‘Rock In America’ and ‘Don’t Tell Me You Love Me’ live, what excites me these days is playing ‘Longest Days’, ‘Last Chance’ & ‘Mojo’.

What was it like having a US number one with 'Sister Christian'?
I don’t know, I was on a bus riding 16 hours from one gig to the next! Did that place any unwanted pressure in coming up with more number one tunes?
I think everybody always feels that pressure, but you have to be who you are and try and write the best you can write.

Night Ranger have always seemed to have fun live, something a lot of bands have forgotten to do these days.
I’m glad you noticed, both that we have fun and others may have forgotten. We love to kick ass every night and enjoy playing with each other. The audience picks up on that.

Are you still incorporating your famous acoustic set into your shows? You were on of the first bands doing that.
Yes, I think the acoustic set is one of the highlights of the show. Of course, it’s a mix of the old and new.

What are you listening to right now?
I’m currently listening to Live, Weather Report and the Beatles Anthology.

Ever been to Australia?
No, but we’d love to, thanks.

What are your plans now/
Well, after your last question, it will depend on how quick you can get us those tickets on Qantas.

Well, if I could afford that, I would not be on the phone to you from Tasmania! Thanks Kelly for the time!


Back To MelodicRock.com c.1997 Andrew J McNeice


Rudy Sarzo (1996)


Rudy Sarzo has been one of the premier hard rock bass players, both in session work, as well as in a band enviroment.
He started out with Quiet Riot, with Kevin Dubrow, and built the band into a top five stadium act. He was part of the best Ozzy Osbourne band ever, including the legendary Randy Rhodes and drummer Tommy Alderidge.
In recent years, Rudy has recorded and toured with Whitesnake, recorded a blues hard rock album with Aldridge, Vandenburg and ex-Little Caeser vocalist Ron Young, played sessions with Paul Rodges and Alice Cooper, and conceived his own record label - Sarzo Music. With the label, Rudy has set out to expose the world to Spanish rock acts, with new CDs out soon. For the low down on the goss, read on....

Rudy, it’s great to talk to you! What’s going on right now?
I'm getting ready to start pre-production on the new RATT album.

I heard you were involved in the reformed Ratt. How did you get involved with that?
When the original bassist, Juan Croucier, declined the offer to rejoin RATT the manager suggested me. Warren and I have already toured together (Whitesnake 1994) and I know the other guys from the L.A. music scene.

When will that album be out?
The plan is to go in the studio this winter and release the album in the spring with subsequent tours in late spring and summer.

Do you have a label lined up?
Management is handling all the record label negotiations.

How about your own...Sarzo music?
My record label just specializes in rock in spanish.

How is Sarzo music going? For those who aren't aware of it, what is your aim with the label?
Sarzo Music is growing stronger every day. We are gearing up for our next release, Jan 28, for the Argentinean group SANTA's latest CD ADRENALINA. SANTA is a rock in spanish band whose sound is best discribed as a blend of Pretenders and Cranberries. My goal with Sarzo Music is to expose artists from the ‘rock in spanish’ genre to the global market.

What bands have been released on it?
Besides SANTA we have released three other titles. LOGOS' CD Generacion Mutante, Stukas en Vuelo's CD, Interzona 66 and Armagedon's CD Ecologia. All of these titles are available worldwide through Caroline Distribution.

What about your future plans for Sarzo music?
My ultimate goal is to merge with a multinational label and take advantage of the infrastructure that a majsor record company has to offer.

You’ve been a busy guy with session work over the last few years.....
Yeah, in the past few years I've worked with Paul Rodgers, the late comedian Sam Kinison and Alice Cooper.

You must have had a few wild years with Whitesnake and David Coverdale a few years back!
I'm very proud to have shared the stage with David and all the others members of Whitesnake.

I had a Blast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any thoughts on the 'Slip Of The Tongue' album?
The original concept of Slip of the Tongue changed along the way during the recording process. Mostly due to the addition of Steve Vai, when Adrian was sidelined with a bruised wrist. In my opinion, Steve's work took the record to a level that most Whitesnake fans where not prepared for. I feel Steve did a great job of walking the fine line between addding his own identity to the record, and still keeping a Whitesnake album.

What happened with the band? Not meaning to pry or anything, but I would have thought you were a shoe in for bass on the latest line up?
This is a question David can best answer.

Okay! Any news there, that is how the new Whitesnake album is coming?
This is another question David can best answer.

You have played with some incredible musicians over ther years.
Quiet Riot and Kevin DuBrow...Whitesnake...Ozzy Osbourne...Tommy Aldridge (the octopuss!!)...Adrian Vandenberg...Frankie Banalli... I have very fond memories of all of them.

What can you tell us about working with them?
With Quiet Riot we started at the bottom and made it to the top. With Whitesnake, I mentioned before. The years with Ozzy are extra special. Specially because of Randy. Tommy is the best arena drummer I've ever played with. Adrian is a dear friend and a prolific guitarist. Frankie is the drummer who tought me way back in the early 70s, when we played together in bars in the Florida area, how to be a rythm section bassist.

Can you say what your favourite has been?
They are all very special to me. Randy stands out a bit more because of his extra qualities. Not only was he an innovative gruitarist who helped usher in a new era of guitar heroes, but also was a very humble man.

Any thing you would like to add.....future plans for yourself?....
I think we've pretty much covered it up until today. I had a wonderful time touring in Australia in 1994 and I'm looking forward to the opportunity of returning with RATT.

Okay, thanks Rudy, good luck with the recording!


Marc Ferrari (1996)


So Marc what are your movements of late?
More of the same!!! Last year my band "Medicine Wheel", released a cd called "First Things First" in Europe via Dream Circle and in Japan via Alfa/Brunette. We went over to Japan last November (1995) and played a few shows...it was great!!!

How have the two Medicine Wheel cds gone for you?
Pretty well....the first album, "First Things First" was released in Europe and Japan, and the 2nd one just came out, so we're in the process of negotiating deals right now.
I have also released my first-ever solo album called "Marc Ferrari + Friends: Guest List" last January. It features guest performances by Robin McAuley (MSG), Steve Plunkett (Autograph), Carl Dixon (Coney Hatch), Bob Kulick (MeatLoaf, Alice Cooper, Blackthorne), Tommy Thayer (Black n Blue / Shake The Faith), Pat Torpey (Mr.Big), and all the dudes from "Cold Sweat", and more. The Japanese version on Alfa / Brunette features a bonus track written by myself and Paul Taylor (Winger), and sung by Marq Torien (Bulletboys). I am trying to get deals here in the USA so it will be a domestic release.
It has done better than expected!!

How did you get so many great guys on the CD?
They were just friends of mine...we always see each other around in LA so it just seemed natural for me to invite mey friends to help on the CD

Will you work with any of the guys again, given the chance?
Absolutely...it was a dream working with everyone. I am a fan as well as a friend with all the guys on the CD.
I am a big fan of Robin McAuley and Carl Dixon and also Paul Gilbert.

You seem like a busy guy, what elso have you got on the drawing board for the near term and maybe even the long term?
Still working on getting the latest "Medicine Wheel" CD licensed...writing more songs for film / tv and keeping my business operating!! Yeah, how did you get into writing songs for TV?
Just starting submitting my songs for various film / tv projects...eventually people started usung some, and it just grew.

You have quite an impressive list of featured tracks!!
Yeah, I have been getting a lot of songs in...for those of you who are familiar with the first "Medicine Wheel" album, our song "Blue Over You" was in the latest Steven Seagal movie, "Under Siege 2!!
I also had 25 songs in the 1996 Summer Olympics, as well as songs in "Melrose Place", "Beverly Hills 90210", "Friends", "Guiding Light", "General Hospital", "Entertainment Tonite", "L.A. Firefighters", "Mad About You", "Sisters", "Lois and Clark", and some others.

Just how many?!!!
Nearly 350 songs in film / Tv in nearly 3 years!!

Did that lead you to your acting debut?
No, the acting thing was separate. I recently filmed an episode of "Murder She Wrote"...I played a guitar player in a band that was an accessory to the murder...the episode was called "Death Goes Double Platinum", and aired January 4. I also filmed an episode of "Step by Step" with Suzanne Somers and Patrick Duffy.
Although I'm not planning an acting career, it's fun doing these sideline gigs.
I got strted going back to the time "Keel" worked with Penelope Spheeris on a video for a movie she directed in 1987. I have since done some sideline work, but it's through the musician's union here.

There are a few reunions going on, how about a Keel one?
There are no plans for one right now...we haven't discussed it...everyone's doing their own thing!!! Do you still see the guys about?
Yes, I saw Ron + Dwain this year in Phoenix, and hung out with Bryan Jay also.

Did I hear correctly that Ron is now Ronnie, and down in Nashville?
Actually, he's in Phoenix. He goes by "Ronnie Lee keel" and is doing Country music!

Definate food for thought, that one!! Thanks Marc!



Steve Brown - Trixter, Throwan Rocks, Soaked & 40ftRingo (1996)


Steve first appeared as one forth of the youthful hard rockers Trixter. Their album, released at the start of the decade, went on to sell one million copies in the states, and gain the band a huge following.
Now Steve has moved onto a new act Throwan Rocks, who already have gathered a fan base along the east coast USA. Reviews for their four track EP have all been positive, and now the band are at work on a full length debut.
So how did it all come together?

How’s Things going then?
Going great!

What’s the new band then?
The band is called Throwan Rocks.

How long has the band beet together?
Right now the the band have been together exactly a year and a half.

That long!
Yeah, it’s been a project of mine that I started. Basically what happened, I built a studio in my basement of my house. Just started knocking around, experimenting and having fun, and all of a sudden I had four or five of these songs, that I listened to and I said - You know I have got something here. Different than what I had done in the past, and it was all me singing on it vocally, and I sent it to a couple of friends of mine I have in the business, my lawyer in particular, who is a big part in this band starting. He said you know, Steve you have a great thing here, I think we should go to work on it.
So I put a band together, basically it’s my buds, TJ, who was with Trixter with me.
Do me a favour when you write this. Just shy away from the Trixter comparisons. I don’t care if you mention it, but I am trying to get away from it. Unfortunately, Trixter was one of the greatest things in my life, but in the business they look at that in a weird way. Which is kind of a shame.
You know, what is the problem with selling a million records?

Do you think the band came across as manufactured by the label?
I don’t think so. I think what they did was take the strong elements of the band, you know, above and beyond we had some strong songs, but I think they used the look of the band. There was ne getting around it, there was three really good looking guys in the band, the youth of the band, but it’s kind of a weird thing. But either way you cannot deny the sales and what we did. We had a great time.

Yeah, I wouldn’t turn down a million sales.
No you can’t! Anyway, with this new thing I am trying to get away from mentioning it.

So what style is the band?
I would just call it pop. It’s in the vein, somewhere in a cross between The Beatles, Cheap Trick, The Stones, Badfinger, you know, but it’s not retro at all. But it is very pop.

So who else is in the band?
PJ, Maz, Jimmy Dilella, Tommy T Coombs.

And the album is finished?
No right now, we are just about to sign a deal with a major over here, so were are just in the process of signing a management deal as well as a label deal, all at the same time. Everything is going real good. At one time we had a limited edition CD, a 4 track, but they have all sold out. So right now everybody’s gotta wait until the record comes out.

Yeah, it’s a phenomenal band. I have never been so sure about something. We really put together a great band, and have a great time. What we are trying to do is bring fun and good times back to rock and roll.
I think people are sick and tired of all the abuse songs, and drug addiction, we want to bring to world a big fat smile.

I am really happy to hear that because a few other people have got the same attitude, including me!
Oh man, we are so sick and tired of all the morbidity. You know, with bands like Kiss back out on the road and Aerosmith coming out, we are going to be a band like that, in the sense that it’s a big rock band. Nothing but a good time is what we are about. But er, most of it’s just great music. It’s just great pop music, and whether you like it or not, it’s peoples opinions, but it will sure get your foot tapping.
And at some point when you come see us live, we will make everybody smile!

I wish more bands would take that attitude.
Well it’s tough, you know, every band is on it’s own ‘trip’. Which is whatever. I don’t concern myself with what other people are doing, I just do what I am doing, and fortunately I think I have nailed it on the head this time.

What happened to Trixter in the end? Did you call it quits and go you’re own way, or what?
Well I wouldn’t say that. I would say the business really called it quits. Really it was a question of economics. To be totally honest it was about money. We could not make money anymore.
We had gone out on the road in 94 and 95 for a three month American tour, and we realised, as did our manager and booking agent at the time, that we have really exhausted it, and we can’t make money at this anymore.
And unfortunately, we are professional musicians, so you have to make the decision. It’s really a strange thing what happened to Trixter. It really goes back to what happened to the band Badfinger in the seventies, they had big success, and then suddenly the well dropped out, fortunately none of the guys in this band have killed themselves, like they did, but it is an amazing story.
We did not have anyone like a manager, who could guide us and make it happen. It really just all fell apart with our management. Our management pretty much ruined us I would first and foremost say. It’s a big shame, because Trixter in my mind were what e real rock n roll band is all about. You know, like the Beatles or something, we all grew up together, we started playing as kids. You know, ten years after we started, we are out playing with Kiss doing arena’s and then a year later after that, the bottom fell out. I guess it comes back to the old motto, you have you’re fifteen minutes a fame.
No matter what happens we had the best time of our lives, we enjoyed it immensely.

How old were you when you got your record deal?
I was 19. PJ was 17, and when the record came out I was 20 years old.

Was that too much to handle for a 20 year old?
No it wasn’t at the time cause you have to remember, I had been playing clubs since I was 13. So I had been in the business a long time already. I had done a lot of the things before and had a lot of friends who were going through it. One of my friends is Snake from Skid Row. They had just come off a major record, you know, I had a lot of good guidance from people who had been there already.

It all helps!
Yeah, still it was a dream. We had about 13 months from Sept 1990, till Oct 91, it was like all the dreams we had all came true. It was an incredible year. We had a good three year run where everything was going great, then somebody pulled the plug.
Still, no regrets, we did everything right. The only thing I could say is that I wish we had a real management team. If we had that the band would probably still be going strong today.
We would at least have a career in other countries, like at leat Japan, but our management fucked that up.
It’s really what you can attribute it all too. And for every young band out there, watch out for management. You have to have someone who is on top of it and someone you can trust, and don’t become friends with them.
That’s what happened with us. Our managers became our friends and we couldn’t see the writing on the wall. You have to know when to get out, and when to get someone new in.

Sure, good advice.
Yeah, man I am going to be writing a book soon. The reality of being in a rock band in the music business’.

So you are serious about that then?
Yeah, I am waiting till the time is right, I think I could really help. I have known from the beginning one thing you need to know. That is, the music business is a business. The music is fun and all that, but first and foremost it is a business, it’s about money. Without the money, there is no music, cause you need money to record your music. Too many people get lost in the game of having a good time and being nieve about things. I would like to be able to write a book to share my stories, and to be able to give people real advice, not what fucking lawyers tell them, not what these books that road managers write. Something from a bands point of view.
The last couple of years have been a real education for me, that’s why I am looking forward to the Throwan Rocks thing breaking, cause now I know how to do it right.
Not to say we didn’t do it right with Trixter, but it shouldn’t have fallen apart like it did. But hey man, it’s the way that it goes!

You talked to Snake lately?
Yeah, the band are kinda in limbo trying to work out what to do. Sebastian is doing a side project thing with Kelly from the Breeders. I don’t really see him that often.

Okay man, good talking to you.
Alright, I’ll talk to you again later!


c.1997 Andrew J McNeice

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