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Tue
07
Feb

Two Fires - Kevin Chalfant (2002)

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G'Day Kevin, Ok mate, here goes with some interview questions.
First up - Two Fires' new album Ignition is due out in a couple of weeks. Here's your chance to pitch to the fans why they need to buy this record!
Ignition sees you team with Josh Ramos again, a long time buddy - you two have a great chemistry together, how has this developed since you first teamed with him on the first Storm album?

Actually, Josh and teamed up before the Storm. We did many recordings together starting with TheVU. Our relationship is like any other band or family. We make great music together, but do not always see eye to eye...he is much taller than I am :^)

At what point did you two decide to start a project again together?
I had been having conversations with Frontiers. They asked me to make a CD for them. I called Josh and asked him if he would play on it. He was as frustrated with The Storm parked in dry dock as I was. We were back in the musical swamp together.

How do you carry out the recording process? I know you have your own studio - does Josh stay with you for the duration of the recording?
Josh flies to Chicago where we pick him up from the airport. We drive him to Grand Ridge. He usually pitches his camp at my studio now. Before I built my new studio, he would be a guest in my home. I would usually wake him every morning with a rousing military wake up call.

Haha!
Do you enjoy the time spent in the studio crafting out a record, or does it have it's frustrating side?

Yes and no. I love the writing part, you know that Andrew. You have watch Jim and I in action. It flows like a river, or it drips like a leaky faucet. We try to keep good attitudes, but sometimes tempers flair up. When you are cooped up in the studio night and day, the body needs a break, so we go to a show or a club or something.

I know you are a wonderful songwriter - is the writing process more enjoyable than the recording process?
What really makes my day, is when the two come together. You have your ideas - you make them into tones - the marriage together on tape or hard disc-they become your children and you send them out into the world as your personal ambassadors of your musical emotions.

You co-wrote with Jim Peterik on one track for the first album, but on 7 tracks for the new album. You two make a great team - why do you seem to work so well together? Similar aims/beliefs?
Jim would want me to say something like, "Great minds think alike". It is true in a sense. We have been raised on WLS-Chicago. That station was the number one radio station in the country (USA) for decades. Jim's first major hit was broke into hugeness through that station. I used to sleep with the radio playing next to my head every night as a kid.
I think that is how I learned to sing. Jim and I are like neighbors. He lives about an hour away. I love going there, he hates coming here.
I live in the country-far from the cell-phone-mania of Chicago. We jam on gigs together and enjoy the laughs. Keeping it light and not too confining. He respects my musical slants and I his. What more is there to say?
We are cut from the same music cloth.

For those that don't know, I spent some time with you and Josh and Jim in Manchester 2000. I think seeing you two work together was just extraordinary.
It would have been very cool of you to think of bringing a video camera as a documentary. Jim had a little pocket recorder and we just filled tape after tape in Liverpool. There is truly music flowing through the air in that town. No wonder the Beatles are so huge. They just wrote it all down as it came to them. We did the same thing. I know that this CD has some magical moments, at least for me.
It is like visiting old friends that I haven't seen in a while.
Gregg Rolie is there in Rhythm of the World, so is Carlos Santana. In spirit that is.

Even in a taxi-bus on a day trip out, you started things off with one line and a brief melody and before long Jim had his tape recorder out and you two had a song half written in no time!
I have never seen anything like it!!

Andrew, you must get out more often. Don't you have many places to go down under? Here we have the Discovery Channel on television. Takes you to many corners of the world. Just kidding...thank you!!
We just did what we do and didn't really think anything of it.

Did that song make this album?
Rhythm of the World & Man I Want to Be, to name a couple.

On Ignition you have made a gutsy decision to vary the style of the songs more than ever. I think that really worked. Did you set out to do this, or was it a natural thing?
Andrew, I can't spend my life with my undies in a knot worrying about the critics.
I do respect many of them, but most of them just bad mouth for the shock value. I wrote the songs as the moods of the day came to me. I must say to those who have the critical corner, look at the world through your own eyes.
What you see-is what you write. Not everyone likes my work, I can except that.
I did not like everyone's work either. I am a song guy. I find myself searching for the chemistry in a tune. Cause and effect.
That is why I enjoy writing with Jim and Gregg Rolie too. They understand the crafting of the words to cause an effect on people listening. Josh is more of a musical guy, not a lyricist per say. Jim is a good man to bounce lyrics off of.
He is honest too. If something sucks...it sucks. No sugar pills. Just change it now! I like that. I am like that as well. Not chocolate covered manure.

Tracks like More Than A Mystery are pure 80's...then I See Red is quite aggressive, through to the wonderful sentimental ballad The Man I Want To Be....
Did the songs themselves turn out better than hoped?

When we are writing, we start building a schematic for each song. Sometimes that changes as parts begin falling place on tape. It is much like cooking. You can follow the age old recipe or you can experiment. We did a little of both here. That is why some songs are a bit less reverbed as others. Thus making the tracks sound more honest-as if you are sitting in the room with the band verse in an auditorium. I think that can get a little over done. My motto for this CD was and is...
Less Reverb-More Talent!

What are your favorite songs on the album?
Not a fair question to ask a parent. Which one of your children do you like the best...they all know how to read???? No comment. What is more important is What songs do you like Andrew???

Well, Iike Ignition, Man I Want To Be, I See Red…
I noticed you have a different set of players on the lead title track Ignition. How did that come about?

This is a touchy situation. Frontiers asked me what the title of the CD should be. I wrote down several titles in the next few day. When I spoke to Serafino on the phone, he asked me again.
I told him "Ignition" AHHH! I heard him gasp, that's it! He ran it by Mario and Giulio and Luigi and Carmello and Vido and....all the rest of those Italian names and they said...Ignition it is!
Well, now knowing the name of the CD, I started looking at the songs closer. How can I tie the name of the CD in with the existing music? I thought to myself, I need a title track. But Josh had left already for the west coast. He was working with Mr. Fleishman on his CD. I started searching. I asked Jim to collaborate, but he was committed to another project, Mecca.
So I asked my other co-writer of My Love Will Be There-Chuck Giacinto if he had any ideas. He played me a rough track. I liked it. He burned me a copy and I took it back to my studio and began rewriting it. Chuck came to the studio and we rewrote it again. Then Jim Peterik came to the studio and loved it as well, but we re-wrote some parts again. Jim took it home and called me the next morning with yet another rewrite. We ended up with what you hear. I pulled the players together and bang...we knocked it out. This is the music business, what ever it takes. Michael Garnder played the solo, Alby Odum (collaborator on the Debut Two Fires CD and bassist at the gods 1999) came in and played rhythm guitar on the tune. Kenny Aronoff pounds the beat, Rick Powell played the bass, Chuck Giacinto played the keys, Michael Higgins and Tony DiLucianno and myself did the background vocals and Josh was a little pissed.
I sometimes must do what it takes to complete the project. I am sure that Josh would have preferred being the solo man on the tune, but the situation did not lend itself that way. Frontiers loved the track and did not see it as a problem that Josh did not play on the tune.

What are the worst aspects and biggest frustrations of working in the melodic rock scene these days?
The budgets or the lack of them.

And the biggest rewards?
Fans sending emails directly to me disagreeing with "The Critics"…..you asked.... :^) !

I rate the Two Fires show at the Gods 2000 as one of the best shows I have ever seen - it was just electrifying. Does crowd reaction like that make any frustrations worthwhile?
Those moments were brief. I was in a world of pain with my neck injury just days before. There was a chance that I may not make the trip. Frontiers called me 50 times. Every website said Two Fires will not appear. I call my doctor, we met, he said no.
I said I must, give me pain medication and muscle relaxers. He was not pleased with my decision, but help me make the trip.
So, with ice packs on the planes and meds in the bag...we started off. I did not even rehearse with the band. They had all met in a Chicago soundstage for several days, checking in with me daily. I could not do it. The day came to leave, my wife Judy and my children took me to the airport. You should have seen the look on the bands face when I walked into the International ticket area. They said, "We didn't think you were coming". The show must go on. I didn't want Serafino and Mark Ashton to have to get up in front of thousands of people and have to tap dance with hats and canes to make up for my loss. I couldn't do that to them. With much prayer support and some very powerful medication...we made the trip and it was well worth it.
We saw the faces of that crowd and some even from Chicago and it was like being home. It was truly magical with all of the talent on that stage.

I am hoping for a repeat performance this year?!!
I just played a show last weekend with Jim Peterik's World Stage. I spoke to Kelly Keagy about doing a tour of that line up. He is up for it, if it is done properly. Gods-fest, I don't know. I surely do not want to burn that out year after year. I would much rather tour to more cities and visit fans where they are-instead of making them travel half way across the sky to see me.

You covered a few of Jim's Survivor songs with gusto that night - including anything like that, what are your favourite songs to perform live?
On a good night.....Show Me The Way, You Keep Me Waiting, My Love Will Be There.

What off the new album will you look forward to performing?
I am now rehearsing the touring band. "I See Red" is smoking, "Ignition" is hot, Man I Want To Be, More Than A Mystery.

Are there any live dates planned for the release of Ignition?
We are collecting dates at this time. Some offers have been entertained in Europe as well. Japan is a focus for me personally. We have been working hard to make Japan the next stop.

The Storm was of course another chapter of your long career - was it frustrating again to see the second album sit in limbo for a few years?
Andrew, Limbo is way nicer than HELL. I have been in hell at times in my life. Being limbo is not as bad. I can live with that as long as I am busy. I learned that you can't sit on your butt waiting for the world to come to you. Your heart only gets so many beats, then it's over. What you make of yourself in life is what you leave as your legacy. It can be the size of a thimble or as vast as a fortress.

I know you get asked this a lot - but do you see any chance of a re-union anytime for a third record? After all, you and Josh work together and Gregg and Ron Wikso still work together also...
You are asking the wrong person. You are in a sense...singing to the choir. Ask Gregg why were not making records together. Ron wants to, Josh wants to, Kevin wants to, even Ross would most likely. Gregg Is doing his own thing, but we can't work the name without him. Do you want his number???

I thought it was great to see the VU (The View) album finally released last year. Was that a rewarding thing to see happen (finally!!)
Yes, I hadn't listened to any of those songs in years. Then one day, I got a package from Steven Jarvis (our partner and engineer co producer) He has mastered the tracks and man it rocked. I was excited to see that come together. The artwork was some uncommissioned Journey artwork that Ross was holding on to.

Are there any other Chalfant masterpieces sitting in the vaults, yet to be released?
Maybe...

Is there anything you would like to see happen to the melodic scene in the coming years?
Radio visibility just a little more independent, not so many consultants and mega programmers. They control the purse strings.

What can the average fan / record buyer do to help raise the profile of this scene?
Pool your money and start buying radio stations. Program them yourself with plenty of Two Fires and Kevin Chalfant music. Then, pool more money and build a string of concert venues and hire me and other great bands to do endless shows worldwide in those rock palaces :) or just be relentless when you make requests to your local stations.

Is there anyone Kevin, that you would really like to work with in the future?
Yeah, Steve Smith, Ross Valory, Gregg Rolie, Neal Schon, Pat Morrow, Ted Field, Mutt Lange, and Herbie Herbert.

And I guess I should ask what is next up for you? In 2002 and ahead to 2003 even...
Andrew, I will keep making records/CD's or whatever they call them tomorrow as long as I have air in my lungs. I am doing benefits with the Rainbow Foundation in Chicago, Festival dates, A solo project soon, produce many new artists, who knows.... keep busy is all.

And is there anything you would like to add - anything you would like to say to the Kevin Chalfant/Two Fires/The Storm/VU/707 fans out there?
Thank you Andrew. Even your honesty is appreciated. People, we need to make less of an effort of creating stars and more of an effort helping those around us. Too many people are driven by money and not by love. Gregg Rolie said it best for me. He made a reference once to me that if there was a huge earth quake and a big chunk of the land broke off and began sinking into the ocean and a rescue chopper was sent out to safe as many lives as it could. They pilot would not say, "Hey look, there is baby floating in a basket, but wait...over there....isn't that Gregg Rolie the famous singer keyboardist? Forget the baby, save him! I don't think so. Priorities are a natural thing. The baby must come first. We must be more sensitive to the needs of those less fortunate around us, but not be taken advantage of. Volunteer privately in your own heart to helping someone that you know needs your help.

Looking at that - that's quite an impressive body of work. Looking back, is there one period that you favor over any other?
I wish that I could erase the painful experiences that I have caused others in my life. At times when my ego got out line or I thought that I was someone that I really wasn't. We can sure hurt those close to us. I have done this and have spent years rebuilding relationships. Wouldn't it be great if we could just live and let live? Thanks for caring enough to ask Andrew.

Ok Kevin, thanks again for taking the time to do this interview. I do appreciate it.
God bless you...

 
Tue
07
Feb

Two Fires - Kevin Chalfant (2000)

Categories: 
Interviews
Interview with Two Fires vocalist Kevin Chalfant - May 2000.


TWO FIRES:
OK Kevin....On the verge of the album's release, how do you rank this record among the others that you have participated on?
There are things that I like and dislike about everything that I have recorded. I rate this very high on the list. I am very pleased with the songs, the players, the performances, the sound. I compare it with the debut Storm CD. That is what I gauged this Two Fires with.

You and Josh have a partnership that goes back several years now. Did you guys do anything different in the recording process this time around, or did you just pick up where you normally would?
Josh and met in 1983 on a recording that I was doing at Prairie Sun Recorders. We just fit together in music.

This album is pure AOR. It seems to me that it was recorded with the die-hard fan in mind. Was that the aim of the record, or what was your vision going into this?
Yes, this is a fan record. If you don't have your fans, you don't sell records, you don't tour, you don't have any fun.
Our vision is simple, stick to what we know! We know AOR! And by the way, thanks for the compliment mate!

Did it turn out as planned?
Yes, I had George Tutko engineer the CD and help me mix it. I produced it, so I have no one else to blame if it bombs. My hope is that everyone digs it. So far, so good.

Two Fires is different to the Storm. I see that as a band and this as a more solo/partnership project. do you share that view? To a certain extent that is true, but when we tour, it will definitely be a band effort. Our desire is to tour with Kenny Aronoff, Willie Weeks, Alby Odum and some other great players. (Maybe Peterik or Kelly Keagy, who knows?)

The album is certainly a softer side of AOR, pure melodic bliss!
I didn't think that it was necessary to mix a lot of razor blades and chain saws in with all those flowing AOR melodies.

The vocals on the album are very prominent in the mix. Was this a deliberate decision?
We want the whole mix to be strong, but we also wanted to make it easy to sing along with the songs. It isn't a metal album. It is a melodic album. Melodic words and guitar melodies with a powerful rhythm base.

Again, the album seems like it is ruled by the voice rather than the music being the driving force. Do you agree? I think the album works well this way because you are in such fine voice!
Man, you are just full of compliments Andrew! I'll take them...thanks :) I feel that we must use what we have to the fullest! It sound great on the radio and vocals are not buried. I want people to understand every word and sing them in their heads all day, like a Beatle album.

THE STORM:
Of course you are also the vocalist from The Storm (also with Josh). Why wasn't a 3rd Storm record an option at this time?
I phoned Gregg Rolie before recording this CD to ask him for his participation. He declined at that time, because he has been building another solo CD, much like the original Santana. He was just inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and felt like he needed to return to his roots, The Santana Sound. He is still in that process now. This would have been a Storm CD, if Gregg would have joined us.

Do you think that is a possibility in the near/distant future?
When Two Fires does well, this will reinforce our relationship with Gregg and our fans. We want to do well outside of the Storm to take some of the pressure of success off of Gregg.
When the Tour starts, I will ask Gregg to join us. If the tour is huge, I believe that there is a good chance that he will come. If it isn't large, it will probably mean that he will pass for now. He is at a stage in his life and career that he can make the right choices for himself and his family. Touring is grueling. You get no sleep and take a physical beating. You must really want it when you do it or you are just causing stress on everyone that you love. The outcome must be great, in order to sacrifice everything you have and have built.

Eye Of The Storm was one of the most universally praised records last decade. How do you feel about the album looking back?
Thank you Andrew!
I will always be thankful for being placed in such a talented group of people. No one person can take the credit for that effort, though some may try. It was definitely a band of many gifted players, writers, engineers, producers and staff working together for the good of the music. I must say that without the help of Herbie Herbert, Ted Field, Jimmy Iovine, and Beau Hill and Interscope Records, these types of records would not have been possible. It was a huge financial commitment and they were brilliantly & technologically engineered, as well. Let's hope that we can do it again, soon.

Was all the publicity and the promo tours of the time great fun?
Yes, I met so many new friends and learned a lot as well. I learned that radio guys want endings on the songs, not fades! I guess that would be true if I were a radio guy, I would want endings too. Limo's, Caesar salads, expensive wines, and lotsa hoopla! When do we leave???

Favorite vocal moments of that album?
Eye of The Storm was fun to make. We had the best of everything that money could pay for. I am blessed! I enjoyed singing What Ya' Doin' Tonight. That song reminds me of my early youth. I can close my eyes and be right there and pour my heart into it, in a song.

How about the debut Storm album...were you disappointed in the lack of PR by the major label after it's release?
Not at all! Here in the states, it was promoted huge! I wasn't concerned a bit about that at all. You must take into consideration that we were the first artists that Interscope signed. They didn't even have a staff then. Now, they control over 65% of everything in the music industry. Ted and Jimmy are brilliant. I have no regrets.

What did that album cost to make?
Multiple six digits!

That was actually the last time you were on a major label...do you miss that at all, or is it good riddance?!!
Major labels are great when they are pushing you into the spotlight. When they aren't pushing you, it seems to be hard to get their attention. Majors are focused on one thing...revenue! That is a good thing in business!
I don't have a problem with that either. Sometimes talent gets pushed to the front and everyone wonders, "why is this so big"? Well, that is the most frustrating part. Some artists get it easier than others. I like having a long building career vs a short and fast career to the top and then down to the bottom again.

THE VIEW:
And before the Storm was to be, you had an alternative line up called The View. Great to see that album is finally going to be released!
Yes!

Why wasn't the album released originally?
Music was different then. Many super groups were enjoying success and we were caught in between all of those guys. The playing field is leveled now.

Who was the label you recorded it for?
There wasn't a label. We did it on our own with the help of Steven Jarvis and some other quality engineers.

And you have said now that there will be a new View album. Great news...how did this come to pass and what can we expect?
What I actually said was this, quote.....If the demand is great for this bands music, we are in the music recording business, so yes we could make another album, if the people are there to support it. unquote!

Ahh, is there a possible timeframe for this possibility?
Ask God this question; he is the only one who knows this answer!

SOLO:
The Running With The Wind album was a cool more stripped back pop rock album. What made you want to go in that direction?
I am from Illinois near Chicago originally. I had moved to the west coast for 13 or more years. I returned to Illinois and many of my friends here begged me to return to my R&B roots and Running With The Wind was born.

I thought you did it well, any plans for another solo album?
Yes most definitely.

Would it be in that album's vein or a different avenue next time?
Another question for God!

Haha! Are you still in contact with the guys that helped out on that album?
Do you mean the players? Yes...Willie Weeks played bass on both Running and the Two Fires. Chester Thompson and I speak by phone several times in the past year. Chaz Sandford and speak occasionally by phone.

JOURNEY:
Ok, tough question...we all know you almost had the job as vox in Journey...what really went wrong?
Man, Andrew, you like to dig don't you? I am going to buy you a tractor with a back hoe on it one of these days!
Journey...they are my musical family. I have gotten so much from being associated with their incredible legacy. First of all, I harbor no bitterness of anger for the decision they have made. Many people ask me this question and I have to say that I am just very blessed and fortunate to be able to say that they are my friends. I had been writing with Neal, Jonathan, and Gregg when the rumors were flying.
Steve Perry came back to make another record and Ross told me that they (Steve & Ross) had discussed me. He told Ross that he thought that I was a great singer, the feelings are mutual. After that record was released, the feelings about my involvement changed. I can't put my finger on any one thing. It doesn't really matter though. Steve Augeri is a great guy and a great talent. I hope that they let us open for them. It sure would make for an exciting evening for the fans, would it not?

Yes indeed it would Kevin! I have heard so many great reports about the job Augeri is doing. Does that make you feel good for the guys, or a little like wish that was me there?
Now I know you are generally not the type of guy to think like that, but I am trying to think how you might feel about the situation!
Oh, maybe a little bit. No one wants to feel left out. I can only hope that the Two Fires buzz gets back to them too! Hahaha! :)

Any chance of any live recordings with you & Journey surfacing?!! Have you heard any? I would love to hear them!

No, not me! Anyone?

707:
One of your first bands was 707...tell us a little about that albums?
Actually, I only recorded one with 707. Megaforce is the only record that I participated on. A company in the states has illegally added my photo to a double cd to mislead fans that I was on the disc. I am not on any current 707 CD's available...just be informed!

They are still rated as classic AOR...how does it feel for you to be involved in so many records which are classified classic!! I feel So Classic right now! Like Elvis would say....thank you, thank you very much.

I have heard they might record a new album...does that involve you or what have you heard?
Kevin Russell and I spoke of this from time to time. I can say right now, that I will not be recording any new 707 records in the future!

JIM PETERIK:
Another thing I want to ask you about is working with Jim....Concert number 3 or 4 coming up isn't it?
Yes, May 13th is just days away. I am going to his home today for a rehearsal. We live about an hour from one another. We are good friends and share a lot of respect for one another.

How about the Sum Of Hearts project. How did that come to be in your lap and how did it help out?
Sum Of Our Hearts was written for a little boy that had terminal cancer. The little boys name was Raliegh Crouch. His parents are long time friends of mine and we wanted to do something to help the family. We also wanted to create a new awareness of children's deceases. I have promoted St. Judes Concerts as well. St. Judes are children hospitals here in the states. They fight against children's deceases and they do it for free to the public.
I can support these type of foundations. Sum Of Our Hearts will be released someday totally completed with full band, not just yet. I still have copies of the unplugged version on my website www.CliqueRecords.com if anyone wants one.

Must be great to be able to help like that?
I have children and I can't imagine how terrifying it must feel to have a child that ill. We must all help.

And you have a song with Jim on Two Fires...you two have a great chemistry....any future writing plans ahead? Yes, River of Destiny. We committed to write with Kelly Keagy for his new Frontiers Record CD. We do work well together.

What have I missed mate?
Well, I have purchased an old restaurant. No, I don't plan to start my own cooking show, but I am gutting it and plan to build a state of the art studio in it. I am looking for a good name for it. Any suggestions? Send them to Andrews site. If you come up with winning name, you will receive a free autographed Two Fires CD!

Anything you would like to add?
Andrew, thank you for your wonderful support to AOR Melodic Rock music Your website has given us AOR lovers a place to congregate and chat.

A pleasure, believe me. Any message to the fans???
Storm fans, We hope that you enjoy this new Two Fires CD. We have received so many positive emails and fan mails from you all over the world asking for another Storm CD. This new CD is our way of saying thank you. Please keep the Fires burning for years to come.

Over and out!

 

 
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